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APOLOGIES FOR ABSENCE Minutes: An apology for absence was intimated on behalf of Councillor Daniel Hampsey. |
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DECLARATIONS OF INTEREST Minutes: There were no declarations of interest. |
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CIVIC GOVERNMENT (SCOTLAND) ACT 1982 SECTION 41: APPLICATION FOR A TEMPORARY PUBLIC ENTERTAINMENT LICENCE (TIREE MUSIC FESTIVAL CIC) Report by Head of Legal and Regulatory Support Minutes: The Chair welcomed everyone to the meeting. In line with recent legislation for Civic
Government Hearings, the parties (and any representatives) were given the
options for participating in the meeting today.
The options available were by video call, by audio call or by written
submission. For this meeting the
Applicant opted to proceed by way of video call and Janeanne Gilchrist along
with Daniel Gillespie, Stewart MacLennan, Neil MacKay and Iain MacKinnon joined
the meeting by MS Teams. Police Scotland also opted to proceed by way of video call and
Superintendent Mark Stirling joined the meeting by MS Teams. Following a Civic Hearing which took place on 20 May 2026,
consideration of the application was continued to allow further discussions
between Police Scotland and the Applicant, and to enable clarification of
outstanding matters, including consideration of the Islands (Scotland) Act
2018. Only those Members who had been present at the hearing on 20 May 2026
participated in the determination of the application. The Chair invited the Legal Manager to provide an update on the
outstanding matters. Ms Mair advised that two matters had arisen at the previous
hearing. Firstly, a query had been
raised regarding the relevance of the Islands (Scotland) Act. She advised that this had since been
considered and it was confirmed that the Act is not directly relevant to the
Committee’s quasi-judicial determination of the application, as it primarily
relates to policy and strategic considerations. Secondly, further discussions had taken place between Police Scotland
and the Applicant in relation to the proposed policing resource. It was noted that a meeting had taken place
between the parties, at which Police Scotland had presented a revised proposal
involving a significantly reduced cost.
The Applicant, however, had confirmed that their position remained
unchanged and that they were not satisfied that sufficient evidence had been
provided to justify the level of policing resource proposed by Police
Scotland. Councillor Philand sought clarification on whether details of the
revised offer from Police Scotland could be outlined, noting that this may be
significant to the Committee’s deliberations.
The Legal Manager advised, based on discussions with Police Scotland,
that the revised proposal involved a reduction in the policing resource. She understood that this included replacing
one of the six previously proposed officers with a Special Constable and
confirming that the cost for one officer would not be charged to the
Applicant. The Chair advised that the Committee required to adhere strictly to the
agreed procedure and that if either party were to be brought into discussions
at this stage, the matter should be referred back through the appropriate
procedural stage. He suggested that if
clarification of the position was required, the Legal Manager could seek
clarification directly with Police Scotland.
In order to facilitate the required clarification the Chair moved and
the Committee agreed to adjourn the meeting at 14:45. The meeting reconvened at 14:50, with all
those present as per the sederunt. At
this time Ms Mair confirmed that five officers (including one Special
Constable) would be present and the Applicant would be charged for four. A further point of order was raised in relation to fairness, noting
that Police Scotland had been given the opportunity to clarify their position
through the Legal Manager. The Chair
advised that if any Member required a point of clarification from the
Applicant, that this could be facilitated. The Chair invited the Members to debate and come to a decision on this
application. DEBATE Councillor Kain outlined his extensive experience of over 40 years
working with police forces across the UK.
He advised that threat assessments are inherently imprecise and rely
significantly on the experience and judgement of those undertaking them. He referred to the level of policing
previously considered acceptable in circumstances where large numbers of people
were unpoliced and questioned whether the current requirement for six officers
was proportionate. He noted that there
was no statutory requirement specifying the number of police officers to be
present and emphasised that the primary responsibility rests with the Applicant
to ensure a robust and credible risk assessment is in place, including
appropriate contingency planning and liaison with emergency services. He further commented that assumptions
regarding the likelihood of a terrorist incident should be carefully
considered, noting that while such events are theoretically possible, risk
assessments should focus on credible and evidence-based scenarios rather than
hypothetical extremes. Councillor Kain
advised that in his opinion, the Applicant had demonstrated, over a number of
years, the ability to undertake appropriate risk assessments and manage events
effectively through the use of private security. He summed up by advising that providing that
the current risk assessment adequately addresses all likely scenarios, he could
see no reason why the Application should not be granted. Councillor Green sought and received confirmation from Ms Mair on the available
options for determination, noting that the application could be refused,
granted or granted subject to the conditions outlined within the
recommendations at paragraph 5.1 of the report.
Councillor Hardie advised that from a public safety perspective, he
would feel more reassured by a police presence and indicated support for
granting the Application subject to the inclusion of the conditions outlined at
paragraph 5.1 of the report. Councillor Kennedy-Boyle indicated support for granting the application
but was of the view that the proposed policing requirement, as set out in the
report, was excessive. She suggested
that the condition relating to the requirement for up to six police officers
should be removed. Councillor Green clarified that it was not for the Committee to
determine the operational number of police officers and sought and received
confirmation from Councillor Kennedy-Boyle that the proposal was to remove the
requirement for a police presence as a condition. Discussion around the wording of condition 5(2) was had with it being
noted that the number of police officers to be deployed, up to a maximum of six
remained an operational matter for Police Scotland. Motion That the application be granted in accordance with the recommendations as set ... view the full minutes text for item 3. |