Agenda and minutes

Planning, Protective Services and Licensing Committee - Friday, 5 November 2010 1:00 pm

Venue: Howie Pavilion, Rosneath

Contact: Melissa Stewart Tel. No. 01546 604331 

Items
No. Item

1.

APOLOGIES FOR ABSENCE

Minutes:

Apologies were intimated from:-

 

Councillor Rory Colville

Councillor Robin Currie

Councillor Mary-Jean Devon

Councillor David Kinniburgh

Councillor Bruce Marshall

Councillor Alex McNaughton

Councillor James McQueen

Councillor Alister McAlister

 

2.

DECLARATIONS OF INTEREST

Minutes:

There were no Declarations of Interest.

3.

MR AND MRS MACGREGOR: APPLICATION FOR DEMOLITION OF OUTBUILDINGS AND ERECTION OF 5 DWELLINGS IN COURTYARD FORMATION: LAND AT LITTLE RAHANE FARM, RAHANE, HELENSBURGH (REF: 10/00536/PP pdf icon PDF 159 KB

Report by Head of Planning and Regulatory Services

Additional documents:

Minutes:

 

 

The Chair welcomed everyone to the meeting and general introductions were made. 

Iain Jackson, Governance and Law advised the hearing there was a procedural issue which had been highlighted as a result of correspondence received by the Council regarding a piece of ground included in the application but which was not under the applicant’s ownership. A copy of the correspondence was passed out to the parties to the hearing. Archie Richmond, Agent for the applicant produced a copy of a notice and it was accepted by the Planning Officer that the correct procedure of serving a notice on the owner of the land in dispute had been followed by the applicant.

 

Iain Jackson, Governance and Law, then outlined the hearing procedure and the Chair invited anyone who wished to speak at the meeting to come forward and make themselves known.

 

Planning Officer

 

Howard Young, Planning and Regulatory Services, gave a brief outline of the application, describing it as being in the style of a traditional farm steading in a courtyard formation with separate ‘farmhouse’ dwelling at the centre.  He indicated the access from the main road which showed the disputed area of ground.  Members were shown various views and elevations of the proposed development site.  Mr Young advised that at pre-application stage the location, nature, and design of the proposed development had been satisfactory and that it had been assessed against a range of policies. The key issues raised had been that of noise and policy LPBAD2 and Mr Young concluded by saying that whilst he considered the development to be a good scheme, he had real concerns regarding the noise from the adjoining property and in this respect, he recommended refusal of the application.

 

Agent for Applicant

 

Archie Richmond, Richmond Architects, informed Members that there was sufficient ground on the right of the road, which was in the ownership of the McGregors that could be used as a lay by and that the application could be altered to show this. 

 

He advised that the ROA designation in the Local Plan had been supported by the objectors during the Local Plan consultation process.

 

Mr Richmond gave a brief history of the application, explaining that following the initial application, there had been extensive pre-application consultation with senior planning officer to agree location, design, style, scale and materials etc.  This had been carried out from November 2008 and continued until the application was submitted in March 2010.  The issue of noise had not been raised at any stage and was only highlighted 8 weeks after the application had been validated.

 

The location and siting of the houses was not proposed by the applicant or the agent.  Mr Richmond informed members that the current location was recommended by planning officers from the first enquiry in 2008 and throughout the consultation process.  He added that Planning Officers had originally wanted to locate the development on the site of the existing outbuildings which would have been even closer to the adjoining smallholding.

 

The applicant and agent’s preferred location would have been at the entrance from the main road at the bottom of the hill and this would have negated the need to upgrade the access road.  Another suggested site had been above the log cabin, some 100m south of the current site, where planning permission for a house had previously existed but was now lapsed.

 

Mr Richmond said that at a previous enquiry for another client at the site entrance at the base of the hill in August, the following response had been received from Planning.

 

This particular ROA is characterised by a limited amount of development which sits high above the road level.  I am of the view that any development below this higher level would be out of keeping with the settlement pattern and would fail to accord with policy

 

He reiterated his previous statement that from initial enquiry stage in 2008 up to the current application, that planning had insisted on this location for the houses.

 

Mr Richmond informed members that the one single issue in relation to this application is a perception that there may possibly be public nuisance complaints from the occupiers of the new properties and that the application would be approved if it were not for this issue. He questioned why during the 15month pre-application consultation process, there had been no issues raised regarding noise and was only highlighted some 8 weeks into the formal application process.

 

In June 2010, Planning had requested a 24hour Noise Impact Assessment (NIA) to be carried out to monitor possible animal and vehicle noise from the adjoining smallholding.  This would not be carried out in wet weather and so was subsequently not carried out until late July and issued to planning on 13 August 2010.  A Consultation assessment of the NIA by Environmental Health was received on 19th August 2010 recommending refusal on the ground of Bad Neighbour in Reverse.

 

Mr Richmond advised that despite continual correspondence and communication with Planning regarding these results, proposed meetings with EH and the Acoustic Consultant were continually refused until the Head of Planning agreed to hold a meeting on 18 October 2010.  The Agents found it surprising that EH had discussions with the main objector and visited the site but refused to meet with them despite numerous requests to do so.

 

Mr Richmond said that the issue of noise came down to a difference of opinion and interpretation of the NIA report by the EH Department/Officer.  Once again, Mr Richmond drew Members’ attention to the use of the word ‘subjective’ in the report stating that in his view, these opinions should be ‘objective’ and that there was nothing in the NIA report to support the statement on pg 13 regarding noise levels.  Mr Richmond also questioned the statement in the report which suggested that triple glazing and increased insulation would be required and that the windows should remain shut whilst noise levels were at their highest.  He said that this was not  ...  view the full minutes text for item 3.